Episode 34

Transcript

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You're hanging out with Bob and Brad. Two guys with too many moods, too many takes, and not nearly enough facts. Welcome to Bob and Brad. Perpetually wrong.

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Hello everybody. I'd like to uh dedicate this show to uh Steve Spenel and Bruce Wagner, the memory of them. Um they were two extremely close friends, co-workers, I'd even go to say brothers on that. And um they uh they had an unfortunate event last week and um were uh they were taken from us at work on the highway, and um it's been a rough week around the shop. It's been rough for a lot of families. Um they were really great guys, everybody loved them, everybody was close with them, and uh and so they listened to the show religiously.

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And Bruce never had a problem uh telling us how we did.

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Right. No, no, he was he was straight up if we did that episode he'd he'd say it. So you guys suck! This show is for them. Um two really great guys taken way, way too early from us. And uh so this is for you guys. Both of them. Yes, absolutely. On that note, we took a week off, and uh we're back.

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And we'll better than ever. And our week off, one of our biggest fans went on a vacation. Yes, she did. And she brought us back. Can I put mine on now?

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Yes, absolutely. She brought us these new cankozis from her vacation. They're from Try My Nuts Nut Company, Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, Outer Bakes, Outer Banks, North Carolina.

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Thank you, Matty.

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On the back, what's it say? Open wide. Open wide. So, yeah, that was uh we received that uh in the fan mail, which was a nice little gift and surprise. Thoughtful. Tight fit.

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Tight.

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Yeah, yeah, just the way we like them.

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I had to spit on one in a while. Oh yeah, um, you know, we needed the you need more than you more than I needed the week off. So that was a good decision by production and directing. Yeah, exactly. I like that. They they said, oh, maybe we ought to take things take things slow. So we did. And thank you again, Nettie, for this. This is awesome.

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Absolutely.

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Like our gifts.

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Yeah. Um more people should send us cool shit like this.

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You know, people are saying you guys need a little bit of a format. Oh, yeah. And so we gotta work out the format. We've got Bob's history, but we also started a long time ago about emails.

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Yes.

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Where are we putting it? Are we email, history, back to email? Do we do history? Go to I don't know.

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We can start right off with the emails if you want.

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Well, we got several.

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I like several.

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I pulled out a couple of my favorites. Paulina at AOL. Who still uses AOL? Paulina does. Anywho? Huh. She uses it and she says, guys, give me each of you give me five things that were better in the 80s and 90s. I replied, Bob was breastfeeding most of the eighties.

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That's true. I was born halfway through the 80s.

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And she said, that's why I added the 90s. But I'm really keen. If you could get this into one of your next couple shows, well, thank you, Paulina, for considering in the 90s. But we should have done this like three episodes ago because I'm not real tight with uh remembering to write down the email. So it had been a couple weeks.

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Okay.

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So I came up with a couple of my things. Well, let's hear it. I wrote them down.

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And I'll tell you if you're right or wrong.

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The music was way better. Because you had what makes music better to me is you had bands. Not you know, look at Morgan Wallen. Who do you see on stage? You see Morgan Wallen.

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Right.

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He's got a whole fucking band that does his music.

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Yeah.

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Taylor Swift. She has a computer that does most of her music, I think. And her voice. And her looks, and I just don't like her. But music. I think music was better then than it is now. Of course, I think music was way better in the 60s and 70s than it is.

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Right, right. But I mean, you got more.

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Is it genre specific?

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I don't know.

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I to me it is. Yeah. You like a lot of rap. And I think that's gotten better than what it was.

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You know, I I wanna I wanna debate and argue with you on this, but as much as it pains me to say it, I think Are you agreeing about that? I think you might be right.

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See, I thought you'd be on the other side of that.

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No, and and and honestly, I th I I think when you said rap and all that, I think the old school rap's better than this shit anyway.

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When you say old school, how far back?

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Like rolling down the street in my sixth fo.

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Who's that?

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Easy E.

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Easy E. Okay, part of NWA. Yeah. Yeah. Because I like those guys.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Um God, Easy E. Uh what was the group Ice T was in?

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Do you remember he was by himself, wasn't he?

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Yeah, he was for the most part, but he had a group and they did that cop killer song, which pretty much killed his career for a while.

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Yeah, and now he plays a cop on TV.

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They should shoot him when he decides to get off and play that music in the background. Yes, they should. They should.

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Yeah.

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Motherfucking cop killer and just fucking lay him out.

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Yeah. No, I body count.

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Was that the name of the band that he was in?

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I think it might be. I I'm not sure.

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Well, if you're gonna agree with the music, what do you think? Because you're kind of an internet baby. I think it was better prior to the internet. Uh and not necessarily the internet, but social media as much as it is.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

Well, the benefit to that, and uh it's just like anything, there's gonna be goods and bads, right? So the benefit to that is like on the social media, and I don't use my social media for the drama that a lot of people do.

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That it can create.

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So I like my social media on pages of things that I'm interested in and that I actually have a passion for, and there's so many things you can learn from that, and it's it's easier to learn now than it was then because everything's right at your fingertips. So, you know, depends on what someone's using it for. I I think I think you're wrong.

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That could be. I I get it, yeah, because I do feel smarter since we have the internet.

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Because you can have an answer right now. Where before you'd have to go find the old boy that knows everything or or his buddy that knows everything that that guy don't know.

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Makes a lot of my car repairs a lot easier.

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Yep, yep. And just sometimes some just regular life hacks of things around the house, and and hell, I I love the internet, I love the social media for the recipes. For like barbecue.

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What do you do? Send the recipe to Kelly or Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. That's exactly what I do.

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Alright, I'm gonna share one more thing on my list of five. Okay. What was better in the 80s and 90s than it is today? Sundays. I love Sundays when we had fucking nothing because nobody was open. Do you remember that? Are you old enough for that?

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Yes, I do. Yep.

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Go for a car ride, stop at grandma's stop at the ants. Mom would get liquored up all day long, and somehow we she always got us back to our driveway.

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But Well, the thing about Sundays that used to happen is everybody would meet at grandma's house and have a dinner. And now you don't have that. You've got less family time, less because of the work. Less doing things. And a lot of it could be work because a lot of people have to work Sundays that, you know, have their days off during the week or sometimes don't have a day off.

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How do you feel about it?

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About what?

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Thanksgiving. We're all sitting around eating turkey, pumpkin pie, whatever, your cranberries. Love the jelly cranberry. Somebody says, Oh, it's three o'clock, I gotta leave. The store opens at four. I denounce them motherfuckers. No! It you stay the fuck out of the store because that's somebody that should be at home with their family having a holiday.

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Don't support that.

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Exactly. Are you on the same side as that?

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Yeah, I don't do Black Fridays to shop, and that's let everybody have a holiday. In Black Friday shopping isn't even close to what it used to be.

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Remember that line would go all the way around Target.

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And people would fist fight over the four TVs that were on sale. Yep. Yeah.

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I lifted a stereo out of a cart once. I believe it. Fucking sign said limit three. And this bitch had four of them in there, and we wanted to get one for us at the time. This you don't make it. You just pleased her limit. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Took one right out of her cart, threw it in ours. Yeah. Happened nowadays, she probably would have shot me. Yeah. But yeah, it used to really be something, and now fuck you can go online and order the price.

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And the part that pisses me off is if there's that much markup, why aren't you making it affordable for the consumers? And we already covered this a way back in the beginning of the of our podcast days when we were just nobody. But yes. If you can afford to sell them for that, sell them for that. Put fucking gouging everybody on the way on the way to the Black Friday.

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You can't tell me that them Florida liquor stores don't make plenty of money to stay open at $24 for a fucking half gallon of Tito's. Right. That we need to charge fucking $40 up here in Michigan.

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But the chew costs a shitload more down there than it does up here.

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Yeah, they don't like their tobacco users. Yeah. Yeah. I I don't buy it down there if I can help it.

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Well, Betty's going in to get her Virginia Slims and fucking gotta take a pull off of her fucking retirement account.

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Yeah, I don't know how the fuck they afford to smoke or chew down there.

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What do you got on your list? Anything? You know? Vehicles. Oh yeah. Vehicles in the 80s and 90s were way better as far as no complications. Muscle cars. Oh, yeah.

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Not so much of the 90s, but no, but you you had your muscle.

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You could work on them yourself. Oh, that thing was a screamer. You could work on them yourself. They were way more reliable.

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They had the uh dimmer switch on your foot, which I liked for a couple years.

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Right. Yeah. The old square body Chevy.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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84 to 83-ish to 86, I think was last year. Well, actually, they're square body back in the 70s, in my opinion. But a lot of people, I'm on a Facebook group that they're they swear by it's 81 to 86 only or 81 to 84. They're wrong. No, they're wrong. I love the fucking late 70s crew caps. Yeah. Yeah, those are stupid. You don't see a whole lot of them.

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Boy, they were nice. So I I'm gonna I'm gonna say vehicles were better because a guy could maintenance his own vehicle. He could he could rely on it. You know started every time. And it did a good job.

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Yep, didn't need an update.

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And they didn't have these fucking front end parts they got in these pickup trucks now that 40,000 miles you've got to rebuild the front end on your brand new truck because the fucking thing's wallered out.

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And then you're at a loss as to what are you rebuilding it with because all them suspension parts are just shit anyway. All junk. I used to swear by Moog. That fucking Detroit Axle now is better than them.

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Yeah, yeah. Moog Moog is uh downhill. They're out the window, they suck.

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Um say, wow, Dad, I can't believe you had a Denali three-quarter ton. There's nothing special about it.

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No.

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Nobody's gonna look back and say, oh my god, did you really have a Camaro with a four cylinder? Well, they might with a four-cylinder because they're looking at you like you're a fucking retard. Right.

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But you know what they will say? Man, you had a square body K-5 blazer? Yep. You're damn right. And I had a square body frickin' long box four-wheel drive lifted pickup. And for what we pay, fuck.

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Bring them back. Let us pay the fucking bullshit gas guzzle tax or whatever. We're already paying for all that. That would be sweet. If one of them three came out and they came out with a square body crew cab, a little bit of lift, some BFGs on there. They'd like hot cakes. Could not keep them. They tried that a couple years with the paint job. Yeah. That's not the same. It didn't look the same.

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No. The other one, better in the eighties and nineties, was the pay for what the cost of living is. Oh fuck yes. You know, we've we've talked about it before, but a man could work at the shop. Wife didn't have to work. They had their house at home. They had nice vehicles, and they had a cabin up north somewhere that they went to every weekend. Yes, every weekend.

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In the reliable car.

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Yes. Don't have that today.

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The only thing I take away from the vehicles, remember them fucking vinyl seats you get in there on a hot day.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Woo! Maybe we'll do current upholstery.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that.

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Lose three layers of your skin getting out of that bitch. But yeah, you're right. The pay was better. They had uh their health insurance, everything was. Compared to what it is today. Right. And it's kind of sad when you look at what you make today. A lot of people were making that in the late 80s, early 90s.

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Yeah, yeah. Pretty pissed poor. Um and I'll give my third one. Obviously, we all have we both have five, but this is gonna go over like a fart in church.

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Oh boy.

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Because of my young youthful age over you. Cartoons. Cartoons in the 80s and 90s were way better than the shit they've got today.

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Well, we're stuck on the 90s. I'm back into the 80s. Looney tunes I really liked. That was early 80s. Yeah.

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Well, Tom and Jerry X.

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Yeah, all that shit. Um, how about uh I did like it, and uh I can't place the name, but Pinky and the Brain was on it. Uh Animaniacs.

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Yeah, yeah. Something like that. I really like that. You had Ren and Stimpy. Yeah. Yeah. Beavis and Butthead. Yep. Do they have cartoons? Can you get up on a Saturday morning and watch cartoons anymore? I don't know. I mean, there there's channels that are just cartoons, like this Cayou and fucking Dora.

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And I don't like that.

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Yeah. I learned from I learned from Ren and Stimpy and Beavis and Butthead. Yeah, well, yeah.

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You turned out fine.

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Yeah, look at me. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah, I don't like how everything's got to teach people something. Right. Um That's a good one for you.

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What?

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Kira at Gmail says Hey, Shakira or Shakira?

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Shakira is a Shak I R A. Oh, okay.

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Yeah, I couldn't. Just just dropped the show so we didn't know who she was.

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Yeah.

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Shakira listens to us, Bob. Did you know that? I do now. Fucking hey, we are somebody.

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Big fan of hers.

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She says, and I quote I hear you guys talk quite often about your wives and relationships. You guys seem to th Shade. You guys seem to think you've got the market locked down for happy marriages. Fucking right. Give us your piece of marriage advice that nobody should follow. I'm gonna let you go first on this.

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I got this. That's easy. Sometimes you women out there, and I'm gonna go ahead and make that a blanket statement because I think it's all.

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I like it when you say it like that. You women out there.

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You broads. Um sometimes you got so much going on and you need a little guidance, a little push, if you will.

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Tap on the ass.

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Yeah. So sometimes it's our duty to make sure that they're staying the course of their womanly duties. And a good line I like to use, and I think anybody else would enjoy using this line too, and they should, is when it's time to get some hot food on the table or the meal prepped or whatever needs to be done in their office there, you tell 'em, hey, less bitching, more kitchen. Get to it, woman.

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And she just smiles and turns around, right?

SPEAKER_00 17:50

Oh, I I forgot what I was doing. I'm sorry. Thank you for helping me with that. Appreciate you putting me back in my lane. That's right. So sometimes it just Sometimes you gotta grab the bowl by the horn.

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A little reminder per se.

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Yes. And that, you know, that that could go with some other things, you know. If you know Oh, I'd like to hear more. That laundry's piling up. Uh once you get go find that washing machine, you just tell 'em. Yeah. You know, so it's it's it's good. They just they need a little guidance.

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I like to go turn it on every once in a while, make sure it still starts. I turn it right back off. Are you doing laundry? No, I was making sure it started because you haven't done it in a while.

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So my relationship advice is be a man, help give the guidance that they need, because women are really busy. Ladies are busy. They got jobs to hold down, they got the kids to make sure that are seen for school and make sure their lunches are packed for their school if they're not if they don't eat the hot lunch. You know, they got scheduling with with practices and games and tournaments and holidays. All these yeah, so so the women the women are a very, very valuable asset to us men. But in amongst their busy, busy schedule and busy lives, sometimes we gotta keep them on the course.

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That nasty evil distraction word.

SPEAKER_00 19:12

Yeah. And if if you use that, I promise you you'll get a reaction from it.

SPEAKER_02 19:19

Probably, yeah, you will get a reaction.

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Yeah, so try it out. So take that advice. You heard it right from Bob. That is your job to make sure you are keeping your woman staying the course.

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I like that.

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Yeah.

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Mine is honesty. Yeah. Always be honest. Dear. These pants make me look fat. No. It's your oversized thighs and your fat ass that make you look fat. They like honesty. Yep. Does my hair look good? Oh, you're done? You don't have to tell her it looks like trash. Kind of goes with what you were saying. I'm trying to make you look more presentable because you are busy.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

Right. Yeah. Oh. And sometimes the little things slip by you. Right. We're just doing our deed.

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Good God, don't wear your hair like that. You know, you gotta be honest.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

Right. I agree with that. So you heard it from first from Bob and Brad.

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So there you go, Kira. Yeah. Your man, if he's down in you because of this stuff, he's just trying to help you out. Yeah. That's all you need. Yep. Women? As Bob says, stay in your lane. Yep. And keep pushing forward. If you're not doing anything, get up, check that fridge. Make sure there's a cold drink for him when he gets home from work.

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Yeah.

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You know, there's a book. Fifties etiquette. Yeah. Always dress yourself to appear well when your husband comes home. Meet him with a cold drink. Don't say anything. He's had a long day. Touch his pee-pee. Touch and you can't go wrong.

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No.

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No.

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Even if he's in a bad mood and you start touching his pecker, he's gonna smile. Mood's he's gonna like it. That's no different than if you're losing an argument and you're ladies, if you're losing an argument, yeah, yeah. Whip them puppies out. That'll stop the argument in a hurry.

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Yes, it will.

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Yeah. And then grab him by the ears and just fucking pull him in and motor motorboat, that son of a bitch.

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We gotta all go ahead and lift your shirt. Some girls will do it like this. Yeah. Pull them out. Yeah. That way they're not wait resting on your belt. You know, if that happens, then you might hear again about it.

SPEAKER_00 21:56

Yeah, that's true. So that is good relationship 101 from Bob and Brad.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

Yeah. We'll keep you guys married.

SPEAKER_00 22:06

Yeah.

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Um, do we got time for one more? Yeah. Go ahead. Denny from Gmail. There's a lot of Gmails when I was going through the emails.

SPEAKER_00 22:15

Yeah. I think that's the most popular one.

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Is it? Yeah. Fuck ton of them. Um he said, hey tough guys. What would you guys be able to survive together? I'm going to go ahead and give you a couple options. So I'm going to read you the options that he gave us.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

Yep.

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Then we can kind of backfeed through that. Could you clowns survive a zombie apocalypse? Could you guys figure out how to live off grid? You guys tend to have your women do everything. I doubt you could figure it out.

SPEAKER_00 22:52

Who the fuck is this Denny clown?

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Could you guys go a week without your phones? And uh could you be a kindergarten teacher? I'm gonna start right out with say, uh Denny, no, I could not be a kindergarten teacher.

SPEAKER_00 23:08

Nope. I'd be hired and fired the same fucking day. I could be a guest for a couple hours.

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Hour.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

Yes. I could never be a kindergarten teacher. And the thing is, I like kids, but I like good kids and 90% of the kids in school.

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If you would pick your kids. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:28

Yeah. Fuck, we'd have the best kindergarten class ever. But most of you people don't raise your kids right, and they're little snot-nosed little fucking assholes.

SPEAKER_02 23:38

That's why they sent them to school. Raise my kids.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

Yeah. No, you guys it's gotta start at home.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

Well, that's an awful loop, too, you come back around on, though, really. As maybe Dolores doesn't have time to raise her kids at home because she's keeping her buns tight and the fucking dinner in the oven. Well I mean I can see where guys could get a little confusing here. You ain't got time to teach the kids. Get over here. Open wide. That's right. Yeah, that maybe that's the answer.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

Huh.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

Yeah. I don't know. But Denny, fuck off.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

Yeah. Me and him, we could live off grid like nobody's business. We can build our own. We can fuck get a couple hand saws. We could make ourselves a little. I watched some shows that I saw how they did it. It's we could do it.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

I'm gonna bring my cordless equipment until the batteries wear out, though.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

We'll get a head start.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

Yeah, get it easy for a minute.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

Can we bring solar chargers?

SPEAKER_02 24:32

That's off-grid living. Fuck yeah, we can. Yeah. And yeah, so can you live a week without your phone? Can you live off-grid? I don't need a fucking phone. Because we're out here living on solar power. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:44

Yeah. I could hang out with you for a week with no phone.

SPEAKER_02 24:47

I think so.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

Yeah. We'd have all kinds of stories to tell. We'd keep each other entertained.

SPEAKER_02 24:52

Tell you what, Denny, we want like several weeks off-grid because the first two weeks is going to be a lot of work.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

Yeah, we're probably gonna be able to do that. Building our mansion.

SPEAKER_02 25:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:00

Yeah, and and harvesting our dinners that our wives aren't making.

SPEAKER_02 25:04

If we decide if we decided to live off-grid, and you said I'm an off-grid liver, liver, you know, or uh survivalist, whatever they call them, can we legally shoot something anytime just so we can eat? Well we're gonna because we gotta eat.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

How would that work?

SPEAKER_02 25:22

Yeah, I'm not gonna live off of radishes because we had a good garden.

SPEAKER_00 25:26

I got an idea.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:29

I think we should take old fucking Denny there. That fuck him. I think that we should do a week of off-grid living, you and I.

SPEAKER_02 25:45

I'd love it.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

Not like these TV shows do where they all stay in the hotel after the cancer. No, real. Like and we'll film the whole thing.

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Just wander out on some fucking uh state land or federal land and just say, Hello! Start. And if nobody answers back, we say this is where we're gonna go.

SPEAKER_00 26:07

Now we're off grid. And we'll we'll build ourselves a little hut. And we'll we're gonna have to go fishing and get some dinner. You're gonna have to learn to like fish.

SPEAKER_02 26:18

I I can do that with enough butter. Um can we have a vehicle there just in case one of us does something stupid and we gotta really go to the doctor? Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 26:28

Okay we have to have a couple safety safety procedures. That has me nervous. I think we should do it this summer. We'll find a week and we'll we will.

SPEAKER_02 26:35

That would be a fucking hoot.

SPEAKER_00 26:37

Yeah. Stink like God's ass, but yeah, but we're showing them that we can do it.

SPEAKER_02 26:42

Right.

SPEAKER_00 26:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:43

So, Denny, if you'd like to join us and show us how tough you are, I think Denny's list is based on his failures in life. You're right.

unknown 26:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:51

Well, I don't know about the zombie apocalypse yet, because I don't have to.

SPEAKER_02 26:54

See, that's a hard thing to even go after because I don't believe in zombies.

SPEAKER_00 26:58

I don't either.

SPEAKER_02 26:59

I mean.

SPEAKER_00 27:01

So, yes, we can live through one because there is no such fucking thing.

SPEAKER_02 27:06

Right. While we're off grid sipping our water heated coffee. Yeah. Or sun heated coffee. Sunheated coffee. Dumb fuck.

SPEAKER_00 27:14

Our oven or our fire roasted coffee. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

I I think it'd be a fucking riot to just go out in the middle of nothing and Yeah. Yeah. Trisha's cousin Jay's actually got a place out in uh oh, I always forget. I think it's Idaho, might be Utah. But he's out there in the hills and he's actually got this little water peddler that does some power for him and shit. I'd like to go out there sometime, just check it out.

SPEAKER_03 27:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:43

That'd be kind of neat. Neat way to do it. It's slow you down, you know? You ain't in a big hurry anymore.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

No. What are we gonna do for beer? Um Do we get to take enough beer with us to make it for a week?

SPEAKER_02 27:55

Well, lucky for you, you got me into TikTok.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:00

There's a thing on TikTok, it's like a blue little barrel, and it says, turns water into beer. And the sky pours water. Is that a gift from Jesus? Well, what do you think it tastes like? No, it probably tastes like shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so we'll we will need a truck to get us to the hospital, and just so happens that truck will be loaded with a couple of coolers.

SPEAKER_00 28:22

Yeah, so so if we run out of beer, yeah, I'm breaking your leg, taking you to the hospital, like get more beer.

SPEAKER_02 28:30

So in that week. I'm gonna make you the the the food provider. Okay. Because I don't want to get in trouble for downing the fucking deer just because we're out there starving. Because I don't, somehow I don't think the government's gonna look at it the same way as we are. Oh, they're just surviving. Yeah. Yeah. Well don't that green truck comes pulling around.

SPEAKER_00 28:59

But don't you guys have a house? Well, yeah. Then what the fuck are you doing here? We're living off grid for a week. It was a challenge from some soul named Denny. He said we could do it.

SPEAKER_02 29:11

Yeah. There's there's a couple things we'll have the legal team work out before we Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

Please do.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

Hear the crack of a fucking rifle at two in the morning and big sun goes out. Yeah. That boys is called poaching. But I can't just eat fish all week. I need some meat.

SPEAKER_00 29:30

Yeah, we need some. Maybe we can wander onto a farm and get a cow.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

We could. Walk them back home first. Yeah, don't kill them there. Uh-huh. Um, fuck yes.

SPEAKER_00 29:47

Yeah, we could do that. We're gonna not could. We're gonna We're gonna figure it out. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:51

Boy, I don't know. That might be fun, because I don't know as if you've got it in you. You've gotten soft through the years sleeping in a house out in the middle of nothing. Could you s sleep in a something that doesn't come from a assembly line?

SPEAKER_00 30:06

Yes. Yes, I could.

SPEAKER_02 30:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 30:08

I don't want to, but I could.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

How about the wife? You think she could do it?

SPEAKER_00 30:11

Oh yeah. Yeah.

unknown 30:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:14

Can we make them come with us for the Oh we're going to because no matter how bad it gets, Trish, we got her to rely on that it's good. At least it ain't that bad. I really don't.

SPEAKER_00 30:31

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:33

I mean it's gonna be fun the first couple days.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

Yeah. Till she runs out of Tito's.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

Right. I think we can survive. Oh, and now that we brought them up too, I gotta apologize to everybody. Memorial Day weekend was such a fucking shit weather weekend that we did not have time to get with them or Mr. Whipp, but it's still in the still in the shop.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

We we we did we promised it didn't work out. For Memorial Day, we had unseasonably conditions. It was very cold. Monday was beautiful, though. Yeah, that was when everybody was packing up and going home. Yep. Yeah, so that you can blame the weather for our broken lack of entertainment.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

Yeah, yeah. It wasn't broken promise, it's still in the fixins.

SPEAKER_00 31:23

Speaking of Michigan and and Memorial Day and all that. Yeah. And uh unseasonably shit weather. Yeah, shit weather. That's the best way to put it. Um you got anything on Michigan history? You know, Bob, this is usually put it on me.

SPEAKER_02 31:40

This is usually your segment.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

I thought maybe I'd see if you had anything to add.

SPEAKER_02 31:44

But I found something pretty special.

SPEAKER_00 31:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 31:47

And I've been pretty giddy for about three days to share this.

SPEAKER_00 31:50

You got a lot of highlighted going on there.

SPEAKER_02 31:52

Yes, and I've come across this. Uh let's back up. You know, I'm not a what do they call that? Uh History Buff? Yeah. But we were at you remember the old bookstore? It's still there. It's called the the uh archive something. It's over in East Lansing. Um the archive book stop. Something. I can get you the name later. Well, we happened to stop there. We're out on a little bike ride, and I was telling, you know, Trish how neat it always used to be. So we stopped in there. And I was looking through the thumb and through this book, and I found this history lesson, and I went, fuck me to tears. I cannot wait to tell Bob about it. Well, here I am. And all of you guys, because it's it's a fucking awesome. All right. So we're gonna get right to it. Have you ever heard of Oak Haven, Michigan? Very few people ever have.

SPEAKER_00 32:45

I have heard of it. I don't know where it's at, but I've definitely heard of it.

SPEAKER_02 32:47

You haven't heard of it because it no longer exists. It's kind of like Pompeii, it's really not there anymore.

unknown 32:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 32:53

Okay, Oak. Whereabouts is it? It was up uh Isabella County, right in the heart of Michigan. Um up by just a little north of Mount Pleasant.

SPEAKER_00 33:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:01

In 1882 is when it was founded. And I do got my notes here. Amazing. So, anywho, let me find his name here quick. Uh strange history of Oak Cave in Michigan. Uh, where'd his name go? Shit, Bob, I feel like an ass. Silas Vance. Silas Vance in 1882 founded it. Um, all the neighboring communities were really into white cedar. You know, wood. They're lumberjacks. Yeah. And he says, Well, I want my own town, but I can't I can't afford to go after the wood. You know, we get rid of the wood, then what do we have? We got nothing. Right. He's smart, he was thinking.

SPEAKER_03 33:50

Right.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

So what he did was he put the future of himself and the town on the forest crop. Acorns. And this is no shit. Okay. Acorns. Um, he is kind of an entrepreneur, so people went with him, and uh he put up a four-story building and he called it the Great Michigan Acorn Refinery. Get off of Google, guys. I've got the story right here. People are starting to look into it. It's funny that we're talking about acorns. We've got to drive my nuts. Silas Vance would have had these coolie cups, he'd be still in business. Yes, he would. Well, anywho, in the refinery, it was uh they had steam distilled acorns, and he made Oak Haven oil, which was a lubricant, promised to double the speed of a train locomotive. He'd lube up the tracks.

SPEAKER_00 34:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:47

Um he had a thing that they called Squirrel's Choice. It was a high protein coffee substitute meant to cure insomnia.

SPEAKER_00 34:56

I thought coffee made you have energy.

SPEAKER_02 34:59

High protein coffee. Something changed between 2026 and 1882 of course.

SPEAKER_00 35:05

Because isn't insomnia when you can't sleep at night? Yeah, so how would you Boy if I drank a cup of coffee before bed, I'm not sure I'd be sleeping.

SPEAKER_02 35:13

How are you gonna cure insomnia with coffee?

SPEAKER_00 35:16

Must be something special with the acorns.

SPEAKER_02 35:20

Then he had a corcus board. It was a building material compressed of acorn shells, and he advertised it as fireproof. So here they are up in Oak Haven, and he hired hundreds, hundreds of local children, and he paid them a nickel for each bucket of acorns, they brought him.

SPEAKER_00 35:41

I can see why this motherfucker's out of business. He's trying to sell coffee to motherfuckers that can't sleep. He's selling acorn building materials that's gonna light up with a fucking match, and he's calling it fireproof. Have you ever lit an acorn? I'm gonna try. But it seems like it would burn. Potato chips burn.

SPEAKER_02 36:02

Well, that's all that's the oil in them, though, isn't it? Because I don't think you can burn a potato chip.

SPEAKER_00 36:06

Apparently there's fucking oil in acorns because they lubed the tracks up and got twice the speed. And the motherfucker. What was oh, he's got child labor.

SPEAKER_01 36:16

A fucking nickel a bucket. Yeah. Well, anywho, he did really good. I bet he did.

SPEAKER_00 36:23

He had uh fucking all child labor places do good.

SPEAKER_02 36:26

Luxury hotel, a new opera house, and a warehouse stuffed with an estimated 40 million acorns.

SPEAKER_00 36:33

That's a lot of acorns.

SPEAKER_02 36:35

How many buckets is that? That's a lot of nickels.

SPEAKER_00 36:38

A lot of sore kids.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

Now, this was in 1882, okay? So there was no child labor laws at that point. No union, no nothing.

SPEAKER_02 36:50

Now, in 1885, the boom ended, as the book says, when nature balanced the books. Um the kids.

SPEAKER_00 37:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:03

They stripped the forest bare of acorns. This is where it gets kind of sad. The local wildlife faced winter starvation. Well, no acorns. What are they gonna eat?

unknown 37:14

Right.

SPEAKER_02 37:15

He's got them all in a warehouse. Yeah. And this is where I kind of pulled on my heartstrings a little bit, Bob. January 14th, 1885. The great squirrel migration. Driven by hunger, thousands of squirrels descended upon Oakaven. As one old man said, a deafening, chittering roar drowned out the blizzard. They didn't attack the townspeople. They just wanted their food back. So they stormed the Capitol. They did. In eighteen eighty-five, January fourteenth. Well, anywho, they chewed their way through the refineries, wooden loading docks, and they got all their acorns, and uh kind of exposed Silas Vance as you well imagined, a fraud.

SPEAKER_00 38:16

As he should have been dubbed for his lies and his deceits.

SPEAKER_02 38:22

Yes, he should have, because Oakavan oil was just lard mixed with pine sap. Quirkus board, well, like you said, was highly flammable.

SPEAKER_00 38:33

I knew it. I knew that motherfucker was lying.

SPEAKER_02 38:36

And seems how everybody is turning against him. He took what was left in the old bank account of Oakhaven, jumped on a train and headed for Detroit.

SPEAKER_00 38:45

Huh. Was later on named Kilpatrick.

SPEAKER_02 38:52

Could be spawned, yes. But squirrels, they had enough. Yeah. They banded together and how long is it going to take you to fill a five-gallon bucket with acorns? Jesus Christ, you'd be out there for a month.

SPEAKER_00 39:09

No.

SPEAKER_02 39:11

Hour?

SPEAKER_00 39:12

Yeah, I mean, if you have a if you have a big supply of them, like apparently Oak Haven had.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

They did.

SPEAKER_00 39:19

Yeah. And you got a bunch of energetic kids that you're feeding them acorn coffee because they're fucking bouncing around like bee stung third graders out there picking up every fucking acorn out there, and I mean they probably filled a bucket in 20 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 39:31

I'd like you to notice how this is printed out. Yeah. Like it's almost like in a book, see?

SPEAKER_00 39:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:36

Yeah. Well, I was gonna rip the page out of the book. No, no. Just fold it over. The guy says, let me make a copy of that for you. So I I appreciate him. Yeah. Um, did you do your your due diligence and get us a couple stories?

SPEAKER_00 39:52

I did. I have I don't have stories. I this week You got facts. I have I have some facts. I don't have I don't have stories because again, my week's been fucked.

SPEAKER_02 40:02

That's been a rough one. Um, you got a page two. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:06

Now it's your turn. Here I am. So little uh Michigan facts. Not history, but facts. Because you covered the history part, so I guess it's facts.

unknown 40:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:18

So did you know that Michigan has the longest freshwater coastline in the United States of America?

SPEAKER_02 40:28

I've heard that, but I still fail to believe it, no matter how often I read it.

SPEAKER_00 40:34

Any guesses on how many linear miles they have?

SPEAKER_02 40:39

The Great Lakes talking, Michigan? Michigan, yes. 1,320 miles. You're wrong. By I missed that. 1,718.

SPEAKER_00 40:51

You're still way low.

SPEAKER_02 40:53

Way low, really?

SPEAKER_00 40:54

Yes. Michigan has three thousand two hundred and twenty-eight linear miles of coastline.

SPEAKER_02 41:04

So we walked around the coast of Michigan. We would have walked three thousand. Is that what that means?

SPEAKER_00 41:10

Well, I'm I'm assuming that like our islands like Isle Royal and Beaver Island.

SPEAKER_02 41:15

So we'd need a boat to do it, right? Yeah. So You forgot the big one. Mackinac Island.

SPEAKER_00 41:19

Mackinac Island, yeah. So I think those are all considered coastline, freshwater coastline, also. So that wouldn't take long to 28 miles of coastline. That's a fuck ton. That is a ton.

SPEAKER_02 41:32

How much does the East Coast go? Or the West Coast, Andes Coast, do you know?

SPEAKER_00 41:37

Well, that wouldn't be freshwater, that's saltwater.

SPEAKER_02 41:39

Oh yeah. Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 41:42

Yeah. See that? 3,200 and what? 28.

SPEAKER_02 41:45

Holy fuck man.

SPEAKER_00 41:47

Yep. And then here's another I like this one. There are more than 300 waterfalls in Michigan.

SPEAKER_02 42:01

300.

SPEAKER_00 42:02

Yes. All located in the upper peninsula.

SPEAKER_02 42:09

I'm gonna have to get with the wife on this because I think we might have seen a good third of them.

SPEAKER_00 42:15

Well, there's over three hundred. There's more than three hundred. And Tequamanon Falls is regarded as one of the largest waterfalls east of the Mississippi.

SPEAKER_02 42:28

And that big one is a big one. Yes, it is. It really is. What did it say? It's one of the biggest ones east of the Mississippi.

SPEAKER_00 42:38

Tequamanon Falls is regarded as one of the largest waterfalls east of the Mississippi.

SPEAKER_02 42:43

The only one I can think of that's bigger is Niagara.

SPEAKER_00 42:46

Right. And it probably is. Yeah, wonder for number two. Could be.

SPEAKER_02 42:52

Looks beautiful in the fall.

SPEAKER_00 42:54

Here's a cool one. Oh fuck. Wait, guys, there's more. Yeah, one more. This is it. Oh, this is it.

SPEAKER_02 43:01

Just get me into it.

SPEAKER_00 43:03

The world's largest limestone quarry is right here in Michigan.

SPEAKER_02 43:11

Where? Does it say?

SPEAKER_00 43:13

Rogers City.

SPEAKER_02 43:14

Rogers City. That's just a little bit north.

SPEAKER_00 43:16

Yep. That is the world's largest limestone quarry. Worlds. Worlds.

SPEAKER_02 43:23

Oh, for fuck.

SPEAKER_00 43:24

Really? Wanna take guess how many acres they have?

SPEAKER_02 43:30

Well, I really undershot the coastline, so I'm probably going to overshoot this, and I'm going to say 23,000.

SPEAKER_00 43:36

Oh, Jesus Christ. Get for real. She's a oh yeah, it's 500,000 acres. Well, no shit, you're gonna overshoot it. 210. No. Let me let me do the topic, just quit guessing. Good night. Oh wow. The Michigan limestone and chemical. Company runs this 8,024 acre quarry.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

8,000 twenty-four acres.

SPEAKER_00 44:09

Eight thousand and twenty-four acres is the world's largest limestone quarry and is located right here in Michigan in Rogers City.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

Oh, I know I got a calculator on this thing. Uh calculator. 8,024, you say. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

Four divided by six.

SPEAKER_02 44:31

Six? That is thirteen square miles.

SPEAKER_00 44:35

That's a big quarry. That's huge. That's a big quarry.

SPEAKER_02 44:39

Now, did you know they had that before you uh found that?

SPEAKER_00 44:41

I did not. I had no idea.

SPEAKER_02 44:44

Because my next thing that I'd really like to do now that we know about this is go up there and see how much we can see. Yeah. Them big fucking dump trucks.

SPEAKER_00 44:54

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 44:54

And what do they do with limestone? Just crush it and use it for concrete?

SPEAKER_00 44:58

I mean that they use limestone for yeah, they crush it. I don't they don't use limestone for concrete, do they?

SPEAKER_02 45:04

I thought that was something that went into it.

SPEAKER_00 45:06

I don't know. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_02 45:07

I don't really have.

SPEAKER_00 45:08

We're gonna find out when we'll go up there and check it out. That would be kicked off the property for being nosy.

SPEAKER_02 45:13

That's a lot of fucking huge. How deep it doesn't say how deep it is. Oh. Well, that's pretty goddamn interesting. There's somebody up in Roger City listening right now saying that's what that sound is.

SPEAKER_00 45:26

Yeah, I'm sure the people up there know about it. A lot of people probably work there that live up there.

SPEAKER_02 45:33

Where's where's the town up there that's uh big into Yol Play? Um is that Reed City?

SPEAKER_00 45:38

Oh, yeah, yes, I I I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 45:41

It's around there.

SPEAKER_00 45:42

Yeah, but Rogers are Rogers City and Reed City are far apart from one another.

SPEAKER_02 45:46

Yeah, Rogers is way up there, right?

SPEAKER_00 45:47

To northern lower peninsula. Yeah. Yeah. It's up there by um, where they do the big rig races on the drag strip. On a way. On away is by Roger City.

SPEAKER_02 46:00

Yeah, I can see the sign now driving down the highway.

SPEAKER_00 46:03

So maybe we'll have to jump on the bikes and go up there one day and get it to her. I would love. I'll make a phone call.

SPEAKER_02 46:12

You know, let me stand by the tire. That's all I want is a picture.

SPEAKER_00 46:15

Yeah. I could lay on it like a pinup girl again.

SPEAKER_02 46:18

Yeah. Maybe we maybe we could get a job.

SPEAKER_00 46:20

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:22

Yeah. Need an address. We don't have an address. It'd be 111 oak tree in the middle of the fucking forest because we're off-gridders.

SPEAKER_00 46:31

Yeah, but we need a job.

SPEAKER_02 46:32

Yeah. And it needs to be cash because we we don't deal with banks because they use electricity.

SPEAKER_00 46:38

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 46:39

Yo, them off-grid people, though. I mean, some of them are pretty decent, but there are a lot of them are kind of a little goofy.

SPEAKER_00 46:46

Yeah. Well, you gotta kind of be goofy to be off-grid.

SPEAKER_02 46:49

Speaking of off-grid, you see how fucking consumers is asking for another $154 million. Yeah. No, you get somebody that can budget the books, and you get somebody in payroll that says, guys, you're already getting enough.

SPEAKER_00 47:02

Well, Jesus Christ, you think the state workers are bad? Consumers make three times what the state workers make. They do half as much work as the state workers do.

SPEAKER_02 47:12

I don't even think it's half, but I mean, if they're getting close to having to do 50% more, they bring in another truckload of guys.

SPEAKER_03 47:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:20

Yeah. Thank God you're here, Bernie. I got sick of holding this shovel. I don't even know why the fuck they got shovels. They don't use them. Leave them on the truck.

SPEAKER_03 47:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:28

Um. And I think, too, let's let Detroit add us in. Let's let Tri County. Let's let all these people come in to other areas competition. That'll drive the prices down. Fucking right it will. Guaranteed. Um, driving prices down is something I just found out that I've got a knack for. Yeah, what'd you do? Well, last night I got an email that said, thank you for paying your serious XM bill of $44.95. And I went, whoa! Hold up, wait a minute. Yeah. When did that go so fucking high?

SPEAKER_00 48:04

You do know if you call and negotiate with them, they'll drop the price down.

SPEAKER_02 48:07

Dude, I'm getting both our cars for $14.78 a month. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:11

That that's something that I've known for quite a while. That if you if you call and bar go and say, you know what? No, this needs to be lower. They'll cut it down to like five bucks a month.

SPEAKER_02 48:20

Yeah. I want them to keep pushing. I'm going to save that for next time.

SPEAKER_00 48:24

You almost lost your beer there.

SPEAKER_02 48:26

I'm perfectly fine with uh $14.98.

SPEAKER_00 48:28

Do that for a couple months and say, you know what? I gotta think about this. This is still too goddamn much.

SPEAKER_02 48:33

You guys have a lot of songs in a loop. And they do.

SPEAKER_00 48:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:36

You have XM in the truck. No. No. Yeah. But yeah, they do drop it. And how fucking cool would that be if you could go to Verizon, ATT, T-Mobile, and say, you know what? This ain't really working. Well, what do we gotta do to keep you? Instead of, oh, tough shit, Charlie.

SPEAKER_00 48:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:51

You know, more companies need to be like that.

SPEAKER_00 48:53

Well, because I think the phone companies are all owned by one.

SPEAKER_02 48:57

And I think that they do not think you're wrong.

SPEAKER_00 49:00

And uh I think that they do that so they can gouge everybody and they're getting everybody's money one way or the other.

SPEAKER_02 49:06

Then it's not a monopoly.

SPEAKER_00 49:07

Right. Yeah, because there's different companies.

SPEAKER_02 49:10

Um the thing I did see on when she sent me my receipt that I thought was kind of fascinating, is at the bottom of the receipt you have a dollar seventy-seven per radio fee that is an artist royalty fee.

SPEAKER_00 49:25

Oh yeah. No they put their little screens on there. They're what is it? Well, is it probably because they put like their little album cover on there or something?

SPEAKER_02 49:33

Okay. They gotta be making more than that. I mean, that's two radios, so we're paying roughly $3.54 a month in royalties. Yeah. A lot of screen art, a lot of music for them just uh I mean, what do they do? Gotta have their song played ten million times before they get a buck.

SPEAKER_00 49:54

How many people out there have XM?

SPEAKER_02 49:58

I really don't.

SPEAKER_00 49:59

You know, if you've got if you've got two million people paying you, is that serious? Or XM or whatever the fuck they are nowadays.

SPEAKER_02 50:09

That's almost four million dollars a month.

SPEAKER_00 50:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:12

Well you're on the numbers like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:15

Yeah. Yeah, because if they were that's like these big trucking outfits like Werner. Um they uh you know they cut they cut the rates down for the people that use them. They got 9,000 trucks on the road. And if they profit a penny a mile on every one of them 9,000 trucks, they're doing alright. They're making they're making a lot of money. There's a lot of volume out there, but there's a lot of there's a lot of money coming in. And so they're they're doing it by numbers, not so much by the way.

SPEAKER_02 50:48

Oh, yeah, because like when I profit margin worked for Schneider there for a while, oh they they were the ones that came out with the uh wheel covers to cut down and save miles. Each one of them saves us 0.01 miles per gallon. I'm thinking 0.01 miles per gallon. What a fucking waste. But when you go with 26,000 trucks, that 0.01 becomes a pretty big number.

SPEAKER_00 51:12

Yeah. So I did the numbers back when we owned the trucking company. And at four dollars a gallon, if you can improve your fuel economy by one mile to the gallon in the truck at four dollars a gallon on the average number of miles the truck would run, twenty grand. Just that's not small potatoes of one mile to the gallon. So if you got a driver that can get you a little bit better fuel economy, he's he's profiting you one truck. Twenty grand. If he if he can if he can drive and save and not idle the truck and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_02 51:56

Now how how close did you pay attention to all that?

SPEAKER_00 51:59

Uh fairly close. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:01

Yeah, because I I knew it was costing me. That's a big fucking turkey out back. Gobble gobble. Looks like he's going swimming. Um at the time it was costing me 86 cents a mile just to operate.

SPEAKER_00 52:19

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 52:20

And it amazed me how many people I would meet that was doing the same thing as me. And they're going out to the east coast and c for, you know, a couple bucks, but they're coming back at 67, 74 cents a mile. You're not even breaking even at that point.

SPEAKER_00 52:37

That's like pissing in the wind.

SPEAKER_02 52:38

Yeah, what are you doing? You know? Um it's that that whole experience really taught me like, wow, a lot of people have no idea what they're doing.

SPEAKER_00 52:48

Well, and then you get like Prime and and Swift and all them companies, they they'd they'd sell you a truck and they would charge you through the fucking nose for the truck, but they'd hold the note on it, and now they label you this owner operator, and guys like, yeah, I'm an owner-operator. He's got Swift plastered all the side of his truck. Like, no, you know, you're a fucking idiot driver losing your ass every time you start that fucking truck.

SPEAKER_02 53:20

Driving a company truck.

SPEAKER_00 53:22

Because you're never, ever, ever gonna make money doing that.

SPEAKER_02 53:26

No.

SPEAKER_00 53:26

By the time you own it, it's wore out time to get a new one.

SPEAKER_02 53:29

Yeah, you paid three times what the truck's fifteen hundred dollars a week. Yeah, yeah. Don't forget to put your eight hundred dollars in for maintenance because we're gonna hold that.

SPEAKER_00 53:38

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 53:38

Um the furthest thing from an owner operator.

SPEAKER_00 53:42

Very much so.

SPEAKER_02 53:43

Yeah. Yep. So, how'd you get your permits? Oh, they give them to me. Well, yeah, because they want to keep their truck moving. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. A lot of companies do it.

SPEAKER_00 53:55

Um and the success rate with that was so low that you'd end up quitting, and all the money you spent buying the truck from them, you have no truck in return. No. So all you did was paid a high rent for it, and it was it was high rent.

SPEAKER_02 54:11

So I tried that for a short stint. Saw right through it all almost immediately. Yep. Whoa, this is not good. You know? Um, but you gotta give the guys a lot of credit for whoever came up with that idea.

SPEAKER_00 54:26

Oh god, they made they made millions of things. Oh fuck yes.

SPEAKER_02 54:30

Yep. And what really got me is when I needed tires and they thought they were gonna tell me what kind I could put on there. Well, wait a minute. My maintenance money, my fuck you.

SPEAKER_00 54:40

Right.

SPEAKER_02 54:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:41

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 54:44

Yeah. Well, the trucking thing too, Jesus Christ. Guys that were running in 74 were doing better than most of the guys are today. You know. Yeah. As far as company drivers go, you know.

SPEAKER_00 54:55

Right.

SPEAKER_02 54:55

The owner op business, that's that's you get both ends of the spectrum on that.

SPEAKER_00 55:00

Well, I was talking to Brian just the other day about that, and there's a there's a guy that's company driver for one of the outfits that he knows, and and this guy works his tail off. He I mean, all he's got invested is a dinner bucket.

SPEAKER_01 55:12

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 55:13

But he goes out, leaves Monday, comes back Friday. He's out there working. And uh, and I guess he made like 200 grand as a company driver. But he's but he's working his nuts off.

SPEAKER_02 55:28

It's that same company that I'm thinking.

SPEAKER_00 55:31

Um This is Iron Holland outfit.

SPEAKER_02 55:36

Okay, definitely. Okay, okay. Yeah. But that's damn good Monday through Friday.

SPEAKER_00 55:42

Yeah, with just a dinner bucket invested.

SPEAKER_02 55:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:45

But he's also humping. He's going. He's not not sitting around. He's he's go, go, go. So, you know, he deserves it.

SPEAKER_02 55:56

It always makes me laugh how many people cannot pass a truck stop.

SPEAKER_00 56:02

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:03

Whoo, wouldn't they put that in? I better get over there and see what they got.

SPEAKER_00 56:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:08

I had one guy that I'd see quite often because he was working for the same company as me. That motherfucker knew when the Fifth Street goddamn TA put out the chicken wings. Oh, you know, he knew everything. Yeah. And it's just like, wow, you're not even making any fucking money, but you do know.

SPEAKER_00 56:28

You gotta keep the left door closed.

SPEAKER_02 56:30

Yes. Yep. And the right door once it gets dark, too.

SPEAKER_00 56:37

Yeah. Otherwise, your your owner's buying you five dollar hand jobs.

SPEAKER_02 56:43

So it's just where you put that at on the taxes.

SPEAKER_03 56:51

Oh fuck.

SPEAKER_00 56:55

Oh. That never gets old.

SPEAKER_02 56:58

Oh shit. Um Memorial Day weekend uh kind of worked out fairly well for me. Yeah. Though in the one visit that we did over there.

SPEAKER_00 57:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:11

Uh Katie. Uh I'm not gonna say she threw the hatchet away, but she's got it half buried right now.

SPEAKER_00 57:20

The fence is mending.

SPEAKER_02 57:22

Yes. Yep. Just need to really pull them wires together and get them twisted and locked up. Good and tight. So that's all I'm gonna say on that note before uh that gets misconstrued and ends up being a problem again. Uh and speaking of her, I kind of miss our uh resident uh electrician. I wish they'd kind of get slow so he had more time to spend with us.

SPEAKER_00 57:49

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:51

Um Saturday's coming up. We got to touch on that. I can't believe we ain't touched on that yet.

SPEAKER_00 57:56

I know, I know. I I I thought about it about 25 minutes ago when we got going and I forgot. But Saturday, June 6th, 9 a.m. is the meeting place or meeting time for the big first annual Bob and Brad motorcycle ride.

SPEAKER_02 58:17

And cars are invited. Cars are invited. Because we need the rest of you.

SPEAKER_00 58:21

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 58:22

Um, depending on the weather, depending on what time of day you look at it, it looks like it might be a little dicey, but all in all, and I'm trying to think of a good way of doing this because I don't mind riding in sprinkles, neither do you. Correct. Neither does most of America.

SPEAKER_00 58:39

Right.

SPEAKER_02 58:39

Um now to go out there in the midst of a good old-fashioned Tulsa tornado, not a fan. No. Especially if it starts that way.

SPEAKER_00 58:48

Correct.

SPEAKER_02 58:49

So that being said, how did what what idea did you come up with to notify everybody prior?

SPEAKER_00 59:03

Oh no, were there rain or shine?

SPEAKER_02 59:06

Okay, now, if it is raining its balls off, are we biking it or are we at that point going to say maybe we should take something with doors and wiper?

SPEAKER_00 59:17

Let me put it to you this way. If it's raining and we show up in a vehicle, we're gonna look like pussies. And other people show up with a motorcycle, how pissed do you think they're gonna be?

SPEAKER_02 59:42

Alright. Rain or shine, it's a motorbike.

SPEAKER_00 59:45

For us.

SPEAKER_02 59:46

For us. The people can do whatever they want.

SPEAKER_00 59:50

We prefer to have as many bikes as we can have.

SPEAKER_02 59:53

Oh, I want as many as we can have.

SPEAKER_00 59:54

I think the weather's gonna change and it's gonna hold off, and we're gonna have a great day. I think so.

SPEAKER_02 59:58

Eric Scott sent a message. He's coming.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:01

Yep. Yep. He said he was gonna bring a couple bikes with him.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:03

That made me happy. Yeah. I ain't seen him in a while.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:06

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:06

Um Craig Clark, he's gonna bring one, two, three, or four. Uh yeah, so all right, Rain or Shine, it's on the bike.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:15

Now, we get there at 9 o'clock, and it's misting or it's not doing anything at all. And we're getting ready to take off 9.30, and it starts fucking dumping buckets. We're gonna go to the local establishment right there. Yep, cramer's if it appears to going to be letting up within the next half hour or so, and we'll sit it out and let let it calm down, and then we'll then we'll take off.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:55

Well, good. I was hoping you'd say that because uh I got I got the route all finalized.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:01

Thank God.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:02

But I've also got rain strategy too. Okay. We will shorten it up or we will change directions per the weather.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:10

We'll outrun the rain.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:12

To try to stay out of the rain.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:14

Don't talk to my wife about me outrunning rain because I usually run right into it. Yeah, I know. You know that.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:19

Yes, I do. Yeah, you're great for that. Maybe I'll have to take charge in those directions.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:25

Um and uh Megan's very excited to get us all there.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:32

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:32

Um, so we're gonna be there. And I shouldn't I shouldn't say this because I don't want to give any of you guys an out, but if you feel that you cannot go for the ride, at least meet us over at Swanny's at like 5 30-ish. Yeah. And you guys can do dinner with us. Yeah. Because uh I got her setting us up over there really good, and I I want to make sure we at least at a minimum bring a bunch of money into her.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:02

You know.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:02

Well, and and that was I mean, that was the whole drive behind the event is to to get everybody out, have a great time, and then and then show up there for a for a dinner and some drinks. Make sure that we can we'll have time there to if if you don't get to talk to us while we're out at one of the other stops, that'll be we'll make time for everybody.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:25

And come in with your ideas. Tell us what we're doing wrong, tell us what we can do better.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:29

Because uh I I uh like you said, I just really want to have a lot of fun with a bunch of different people. But I want to use it as a learning moment. How do we grow here?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:39

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:39

Help us out.

unknown 1:02:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:40

Because if there's something we're doing and you want to hear it, let us know. Yeah, we can do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:45

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:46

So that's gonna be back into it.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:48

And I hope it's just like it is right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:50

Oh, it'd be great. Fuck it. It's gonna be the weather's gonna change. It's it's not raining.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:54

Yep, it'll rain Sunday, Monday, Monday, Tuesday.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:57

I don't give a shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:58

Yeah, they keep pushing it around. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:00

And it's it's days out. And we all know Michigan's oh, Mother Nature's a bipolar bitch.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:06

So bifocals here. Yeah, good on. So we got that squared away. No matter what, we're gonna be there at nine. Yes, bikes ready.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:15

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:16

And maybe a raincoat, but we'll be there.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:19

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:20

Um I click on this events page. I'm thinking about hear me out on this. You can tell me, whoa, mister. I do like that timer. Two days, 13 hours, 59 minutes.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:34

Hell yeah. I can't wait. It's gonna be fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:37

About possibly rolling through one more weekend or just shit bagging it right now. Uh, the paintball. A lot of talkers, no payers. I don't want to get stuck with a bill.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:51

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:52

We gotta put a deadline on that.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:54

Yeah, like now. Yeah, motherfuckers. Either you're in or you're out.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:58

Um, we're putting this out tonight. So what do you think? Give them till Sunday? June 7th? Because that gives us uh a little bit of time on June 6th to rally with the guys that think they're badass. What do you think? Let's go midweek. Midweek next week. Okay. So you got till next uh I bought 'em till the eleventh.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:24

That's a month.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:25

Oh, June 11th. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:27

Yeah, we'll give them to June 11th. If you're going and you want to be a part of this, we need to know. Because there the paintball course is waiting for a response from us of how many people we have to pay it up front. So either you want to try to try to shoot this. Or get your ass shot.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:49

I've seen you paint.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:50

Paintball wise, yeah. Fuck, I'm like a ninja. I'm down 13 pounds.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:53

Are you really? Yep.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:54

The carnivore diet's working really well for me. Good. I really enjoy it.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:57

Still sticking to it good then.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:59

Yes, yes. These two beers I'm having during the show tonight will be the only two beers I'll have for well, maybe till Saturday.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:07

Yeah, Saturday's gonna be different, but you're gonna have those. They call them cheat days.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:10

Yes, yeah. But I've been diligent and I've been staying on it, and I'm and I'm doing all right.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:15

If you're doing good all week long, you can burn off a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:18

Yeah, that's kind of my thought on it.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:19

No, you're staying on the scale and you got your 13 back plus seven, you gotta do something different. You know?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:25

Um, anybody particular that you may have met at my uh um daughter and her friend's graduation party this weekend.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:35

Absolutely. Um I got the pleasure of meeting one of our newest listeners. Can't go wrong with that guy. So are her. So Dan and Jennifer met them. Super, super good people.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:53

You know, I like a lot of people. I met him like a handful. Full handful and a half years ago, and then I met her shortly after. You are not gonna meet two of the more two more nice people.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:08

Oh, they're awesome.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:09

Yeah, and that's not taken away from anybody else. There's a lot of great people out there, but them two are you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:16

I as soon as I sat down and started talking to him, and we're we're just chit-chatting and the whole deal, and I mean, just I like what you guys are doing. It's fun. He's got all kinds of ideas. He wants to get us out on the boat and do a podcast on the boat, which is pretty sweet. We'll do that. We'll do we're gonna do that this summer. Yep. Um he's gonna take us fishing. We're gonna go catch some salmon.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:42

I just want something that you gotta Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:45

Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:46

Yeah, and I don't care if you jump in there and pull on my line, so I feel like I'm fighting something.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:51

I mean, he he he was he was all in geared up. So Dan and Jennifer, excellent people. So glad I got to meet them. Um Saturday? Um they gonna be up north?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:04

I'm not certain. Uh I know they had some boat damage from the storm, so that's supposed to be done now. Yeah. I imagine if it's done and it's running good, they'll probably be fishing, but you never know. They might pop in there.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:18

He was showing me pictures of all the fish.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:20

Pretty impressive, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:22

That guy knows what the hell he's doing. Yeah. I like it. So we're gonna we're gonna get a trip planned with them. Go out on the boat, do some fishing, get some uh we'll get some video footage of that.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:34

How does that work? Do you just buy a fishing license at the gas station and you can go out on the big lake and fish?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:40

Yeah. Is it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:42

I never, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:43

Fuck, you can do it right from the app on your phone.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:45

Oh yeah, everything's app now. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, it's gonna he's been he's been on me and Trish for a couple years. We gotta line something up and fuck it. Just, you know, you know time. Yeah, it's hard to do. Yeah, they're really good people. Uh the other two people I met that I really enjoyed it was uh Trish's co-worker Trina and her husband Mike.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:08

Oh, yeah, the guy with that shitty ass Michigan State shirt on.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:12

Yeah. Yeah, that yeah. It's funny how, you know, I like all my regular people. I really do. Yeah. But it's fun when you f meet somebody different and they're actually pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:23

Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:24

Yup. It's kind of like I don't know, I sometimes want to call somebody and just be like, hey, I just met these guys and we're having a good time, so I'm not an asshole all the time. Just to point it out.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:36

Right. Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:37

Um But yeah, um Other than that, I pretty much knew everybody. I did. I did get to see Ricardo.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:46

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:47

I got to see Ricardo there.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:49

Yeah. Did you tell him you got a zero turn? You might be able to bait him into coming out here on a day off and running around.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:55

He was a little angry.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:56

He gets a little testy about that occasionally.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:00

Hey Ricardo, and he just told me I was number one, which I already know I'm number one, so I didn't even tell me, but it was nice for that you reassured me. Makes you feel good, don't it? Yeah. Like he really does notice.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:14

Oh fuck. Yeah, I I'm excited for Saturday. That's gonna be fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:18

Yep, lots of fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:19

Yep. Um you bringing that? Yeah, there's a mobile studio? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:24

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:25

Yeah, because you never know when a podcast might break out.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:28

Uh should I put together the other four mics?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:32

You can. Maybe we'll bring on some, maybe we'll have somebody that wants to be a guest.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:36

Yeah, we should. We're gonna have to do that. And uh yeah, I can't wait to have the general public see that banner of ours.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:48

Oh yeah, I forgot about the banner.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:50

Yeah, I gotta get that over to Swannie's, so it's there.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:52

Yep. They'll have it all hung up for us. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:55

Perfect. She's she's gonna do she's gonna she's she's gonna do a good job with us and motherfuckers remember that when it's time to tip.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:04

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:05

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:06

Yeah. Or if you'd like, you guys can all give me and Bob your tip money and we'll uh we'll distribute it accordingly. Yeah. Yeah. 33 cents a day.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:19

Yeah. Yeah. You can pay your full year subscription right now, right up front.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:24

Now while while I'm doing this uh this uh routing here, uh one gas stop's enough, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:33

I don't know, but it's not like it's the only gas place we're gonna stop or pass by.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:38

Because I got I got look at them. That's one.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:42

Look at all them miles.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:44

And then if you go to a different page, there's another one. Okay. See, you can tell by the black line that they're just different shapes. Yeah, yeah. Got that. You familiar with the map?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:55

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:56

Yeah. And if we do run into unfortunate weather, we just put a new black line in there.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:02

Yeah. That's easy.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:06

So Yeah, I think it's gonna be great.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:08

It's gonna be a hoot. Yeah, I thought about, you know, I I put one route together and almost sent it to you. Uh when we're starting in Palmo. Uh-huh. And I was gonna make our first stop like over by Springport. So we're coming right by your house.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:29

I'd have kicked you right in the dick.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:31

I was I was laughing so fucking hard.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:34

Oh. I just came up with one more Michigan fact. Oh. It's not really a fact, but it's it is, but it isn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:46

I like those.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:47

I totally missed it and I was I forgot to bring it up. Did you know that the town or city of Eaton Rapids, Michigan is the furthest spot in Michigan from a Great Lake. Eaton Rapids is? It is. No shit. Yep. It is the furthest point or furthest spot that you can go in Michigan away from one of the Great Lakes.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:19

Now I would not have guessed that in a million years.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:22

I wouldn't have either. But it is.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:25

I'm I don't doubt you, but I just pull it up, Google Maps. Here comes the fact checker, folks. Zoom in. And you look at the blue dot, that's Eaton Rapids there. Uh-huh. Um I'm gonna say that is probably Yeah? Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. I never would have thought that. Which is kind of neat. It is neat. And isn't Eaton Rapids also the city of Two Rivers or some shit?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:58

Well, they call it Island City. Island City.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:00

Who's the city of Two Rivers? Oh.

unknown 1:13:03

Portland.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:04

Yeah. Why would you even Never mind.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:07

Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:09

Wow. Wait a way to drop the tone there.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:13

Eaton Rapids. Yep. They should put they should have a t-shirt shop that says I've been to the Spit it out. I don't even know how to say it. Boy, that'd be a wordy t-shirt.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:29

I've been to the furthest place away from a great lake.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:34

Within Michigan.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:35

Within Michigan. Yeah, that's no. Yeah. No. That's why we're not into marketing.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:43

No, no, we're barely into talking.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:47

Oh, uh, something else we gotta fix.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:49

What?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:51

Uh do you know what an SEO is?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:54

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:55

It is. Uh the S and the E. They all stand for something. Okay. And what they stand for is when it's how people find your website. Like keyword type things.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:19

And we are doing really good with it. However, um Pod SEO found a SNAFU that we got.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:29

We have a SNAFU?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:31

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:31

I don't like SNAFUs.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:33

We've got two Apple Podcast channels.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:39

It's uh stands for search engine optimization.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:43

Yes, I knew that. Um but yeah. So they take they'd get they give me 12 keywords right out of the gate. And we are, I'll have to show you when I can look at my email, but we're up there pretty high in numbers. We're doing really good.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:58

Oh yeah?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:58

We really are.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:59

Good.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:00

But the whole having two Apple accounts is kind of killing us. I don't know how to figure that out.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:07

Well, first we're gonna find both Apple accounts and squash one.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:12

But which one do you squash? I don't know. I don't even know which ones we have. Right. I don't know if it's posting everything to both of them. You'd think that would help the SEO. But yeah, so if anybody knows anything about SEOs and dual uh Apple memberships uh that we never really signed up for because we'd let Buzzsprout do it all for us.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:34

I'm guessing you fucked it up. Just a hunch. You know, I've never seen anybody so impatient when it comes to clicking and fucking doing this and doing that. Like, like just give it a second, let it do its thing. You're like, nope, nope, gotta go. Oh, nope, nope, nope, nope. And you can't even follow along with what you're doing.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:01

Well, it does get me a little bit because I am impatient. Very. And when I come from someplace with fast internet and then I go someplace with slow internet, it really gets me.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:19

You know, how are you gonna feel when you're off grid for a week?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:22

Oh, fuck. I'm probably gonna bring a I'm not even gonna bring a chair. I'm just gonna cut a log, right, to fit my ass.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:29

No, you ain't.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:30

And I want to be somewhere, we're gonna have to be somewhere that's got a pond. Because if I don't have internet, I better have ducks.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:37

Whank, whack.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:38

Not geese. So we can't go to Canada.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:41

I hate them fucking Canadian geese.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:44

Them things ruin everything. Holy fucking wood shock men. Yeah. I saw one running over in the neighbor's yard the other day. Fucker. Had a license plate. He was so big. I mean, that fucker was huge.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:01

Well, that's the last week of school.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:04

We're done today. You guys, Lucas told me he's got till Friday. Yep. All half days.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:10

No, no, we don't do half days anymore. We have early release days, which is a just another way to fuck the working parents.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:18

What's an early release day?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:20

They get out like an hour or two early.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:23

Oh, fuck that.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:24

Yeah. Okay, so now you gotta fucking leave work early to get your kid.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:30

All year, you 180 days you've been basing it off of pick them up at 3010.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:35

Yeah. Now you gotta go at 210.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:38

Whatever.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:39

Yeah, whatever the numbers are.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:40

That's fucking stupid.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:41

Yeah, yeah. Good for real.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:44

Um, how much time are we into?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:47

We are an hour and 17 minutes in, hour and eighteen minutes.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:50

Okay. Well, I'd like to burn a little bit of time off the clock.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:54

Okay. Give it to me.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:57

What's your feelings on happy wife, happy life?

SPEAKER_00 1:18:03

That's a double-edged sword.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:06

I prefer the happy spouse, happy house.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:08

Yeah. Oh, it's a two-way street. Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:13

But do you think if the wife's always happy, then you're always gonna be happy? Because I I think you're gonna get irritated because you're doing so much to keep her happy.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:25

Yeah. You gotta you gotta have a 50-50.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:29

That way everybody's This is kinda all stemming from Kira. Oh. Um how about the never go to bed angry? Do you think that's something true?

SPEAKER_00 1:18:43

It's good practice, but it still happens with the best of us.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:52

I can't go to bed angry. We're gonna be talking.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:55

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:55

And then she gets tired, and when she gets tired, she gets angrier.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:59

Oh, so then it's snowballs.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:01

Yeah. Lost my job because I had to call in sick because I ain't been to bed in three days. Right. And the other thing she has is Love means never having to say you're sorry.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:19

Oh bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:20

I think so too. Bullshit. Just like any other accident out there, it's somebody's fault. The reason me and you are fighting, it's somebody's fault. Somebody needs to apologize.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:34

For sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:37

Um now that we're jumping out of that, I got another thing I'd like to say. It's uh thinking of our old buddy Wayne and Jess today.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:46

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:46

Saw a guy at the gas station. He's got a hat on. Yeah, I saw him filling up his boat and stuff, and he was walking in in front of me, and he's at the cash register. He turns around and he boat ran into me. Pretty good sized guy. His hat. Holy fuck, I about shit myself. It says, Yeah, I've got a boat if you've got a throat.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:19

Well, them fry them rides ain't free.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:24

Shit I oh, I I just started laughing. And he says, first time you saw this, it gets everybody. Yep. That's funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:33

I got a boat if you get a throat. That's a good one. All right. Well, I think I've covered all about all I've got to cover. How about you?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:45

Well, I'm heading over to Eaton Rapids here in a moment. I'm gonna reset the odometer and I'm gonna hit Lake Michigan. See how far it is.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:54

Then come back and then go hit Huron. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:57

What am I running into if I go that way? Is it Huron or is it Erie?

SPEAKER_00 1:21:01

Which way?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:01

If I go towards Lake Huron, going east. Do I I'm not real sure. Where Erie loops around at the whole Michigan Huron?

SPEAKER_00 1:21:11

You you won't run into Erie.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:13

No?

SPEAKER_00 1:21:13

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:15

Isn't Erie Yeah, no, you won't run into Erie.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:21

I could if I drifted a little south.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:23

Yeah, but you're not gonna. You're gonna go due east. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:26

Okay. Um I think it's time that we say goodbye.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:32

All right. Well, we're gonna come back with a report from our ride on June 6th. Hopefully a lot of you.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:38

I hope to see many, many, many of you.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:42

And talk to you and visit and have a good time. So on that note, we'll see you Saturday, June 6th. If not, 9 a.m.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:51

Tick stands up at 9 30.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:53

That's right, unless it's a trenchal downpour.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:55

And if you got a whole bunch of bullshit to do, still show up over at Swanny's 5 30.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:59

And we'll be done. You know, it's not an all day, it's not an all night thing. It's as long as you want it. That too. Yeah. If you want to leave, leave. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:07

We ain't gonna hate you for it. We're just gonna be happy you showed up. We've got shit to do too.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:11

Absolutely. So, as always, stay positive, test negative, and we'll catch you next time.